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    Ghost orders problems

    On my last trade on ER2: I was flat before entering the trade, the strategy triggered a short sell, and then my profit target has been hit. At this point everything was ok: IB received my order and acknowledged it. I could see the closing trade on the chart but as we can see on the screenshot I was still short 1 contract in the strategy (screenshot1).

    I then restarted NT and on restart NT placed a stop and a target order on YM (I have another strategy running on it), but I was flat on it before the restart and had no other live orders so I'm a bit confused as where these trades come from (screenshot2)...

    Could you please advise on what happened?

    Thanks
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    Last edited by ryker; 07-25-2008, 11:45 AM.

    #2
    It is likely your strategy (not account) had an open position. Please stop the strategy from within the Conrol Center Strategies tab.

    Here is a post on the difference between account position and strategy position:

    http://www.ninjatrader-support.com/v...ategy+position
    JessicaNinjaTrader Customer Service

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      #3
      Not really I didn't have anything opened at that moment! I watched the strategy trading so I would have noticed this earlier if I had an open order!

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        #4
        Did you close the strategy under the strategy tab?
        JessicaNinjaTrader Customer Service

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          #5
          I closed the strategy after noticing that I was still short in the strategy but flat at the broker...

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            #6
            Then that sounds like this is what happened- your strategy was short with a bracket and the order didn't get submitted because you shutdown but the bracket was submitted as soon as you re-connected because once there was data the strategy showed the short as filled. I would close your strategy before shutting down to prevent further issues.
            JessicaNinjaTrader Customer Service

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              #7
              Not at all...
              I think you don't understand the problem and try to put this on me!

              It's quite clear though, I was short got the order filled but the strategy was still short although I was flat at the broker... Look at the screenshot! This is not a normal behaviour, the strategy should have been flat. I then decided to restart NT...

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                #8
                I have reviewed your screen shots and if you look at the shot of the log tab shows the strategies were not closed.

                If you leave these running when a condition is met they will fire orders.

                Please review the link I posted earlier as I believe it explains your issue clearly.
                JessicaNinjaTrader Customer Service

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                  #9
                  I think you didn't understand or you just don't read what I wrote which make things harder here!!!
                  Don't try to explain me how an automated strategy works I think I have much more experience than you in that area, so I obviously understand that if the strategy is started it will fire orders once the condition are met!!!

                  Please try to read carefully what I write now:
                  -- I'm flat (100% sure) with no outstanding orders at all.
                  -- My strategy send a market order and I'm filled so i'm short 1 contract
                  -- The target profit is hit at the broker and on the chart so i'm flat at the broker and I should be flat in the strategy position
                  -- But when I look in the MA I still can see a short of 1 contrat but I should have been flat in the strategy.

                  So now if you think that it's a normal behaviour then I think I should try to find a new execution platform!

                  PS: After the restart I had a few more issues but I'll keep that for later.

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                    #10
                    There are several reasons that this could happen:

                    - Your account was not flat when you started the strategy
                    - Your strategy generated orders that put you in this position. One example that could result in an unwanted position is having a target working, your strategy sent a market to close the position and cancel the target but it could not get cancelled in time and both orders were filled.
                    - An order was generated manually

                    Since you state that you were 100% flat then I would look at the next two situations. Review the log file during the lifetime of the strategy to piece together what may have happened.
                    RayNinjaTrader Customer Service

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                      #11
                      Look at the screenshot.
                      The strategy is submitting market orders to enter and then stop+target orders. No other orders were there (the fact that I was flat at the broker is a sign, the problem appeared just after the fill of the target order).
                      No manual order was submitted either.

                      I looked at the logs already, no problems from the strategy.
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                        #12
                        Can you post the logs and trace files along with the relevant timestamp of the event?
                        Josh P.NinjaTrader Customer Service

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                          #13
                          Ok attached is the relevant file, problem occured in between 17:00-18:30 with the target filled at around 18:30.

                          Thanks
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                            #14
                            I need some clarification.

                            - In your original screenshot --> I see you connected to eSignal and not Interactive Brokers
                            - Could the MA be reporting a position in the Sim101 account?
                            RayNinjaTrader Customer Service

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                              #15
                              Also, what TWS version are you using and can you send in the entire logs/traces not just a section of it. You can send it in via NinjaTrader Help > Mail To Support menu, attention to Ray.
                              RayNinjaTrader Customer Service

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