Example of using ATM with strategy

[jtrade]

Good morning & greetings from the wet & windy Netherlands !

Could someone please post an example of adding control of a strategy after entry to the selected ATM (using the standard NT8 "Sample MA Crossover", please) ?

Second question : what is the "time of day" code for "Only enter between 0800 and 1200 chart time" & where is it inserted (at the beginning, presumably) ?

Thank-you.

[NinjaTrader_PatrickH]

Hello jtrade,

Thank you for your post.

Could someone please post an example of adding control of a strategy after entry to the selected ATM (using the standard NT8 "Sample MA Crossover", please) ?

Would this not be the "SampleAtmStrategy" in NinjaTrader 8? If not can you expand on what you mean by adding control of the strategy after entry to the selected ATM strategy?

For your second question, this would be the following code and you would place your conditions for entry in it's brackets:

if (ToTime(Time[0]) >= 080000 && ToTime(Time[0]) <= 120000)
{
// your conditions here
}

Please let me know if you have any questions.

[jtrade]

Hello jtrade,

Thank you for your post.


Would this not be the "SampleAtmStrategy" in NinjaTrader 8? If not can you expand on what you mean by adding control of the strategy after entry to the selected ATM strategy?

For your second question, this would be the following code and you would place your conditions for entry in it's brackets:

if (ToTime(Time[0]) >= 080000 && ToTime(Time[0]) <= 120000)
{
// your conditions here
}

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank-you, Patrick.

1. Do I just add the "SampleAtmStrategy" to the chart alongside the "Sample MA Crossover" & then add the name of my ATM to one of the inputs within that sample ATM strat OR I am supposed to cut and paste the code into the MA strat ? It seems the latter.

2. If I want to add two time periods do I just repeat the code with an AND in between ?

3. Presumably a back test of the correctly inserted code would show the results obtained thereby ?

Sorry, I know these are very basic questions - it's a long time since I was cut & pasting strategy code in TradeStation... (& in fact I had an ATM-type strat coded that I could add alongside any entry strat and it would control that strat after entry : it was later sold by progster, the coder, here http://www.codefortraders.com/TradeS...ut%20Exits.htm !).

[NinjaTrader_PatrickH]

Hello jtrade,

Thank you for your response.

I would not recommend copying and pasting code. The SampleAtmStrategy is a bit more complex than most strategies due to it setting and calling various strings to ensure it is properly moving through the proper motions. I would recommend studying the SampleAtmStrategy code first and then the SampleMaCrossover.

The ATM Strategy template is a string in the SampleAtmStrategy code that is called in the AtmStrategyCreate() function. More information can be found at the following link: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...tegycreate.htm

For multiple time frames I would recommend reviewing our documentation on it's implementation at the following link: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...nstruments.htm

Backtesting is a good way to test out the strategies to ensure they are performing as intended. Please keep in mind that the ATM Strategy functions do not work on historical data.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

[jtrade]

Please keep in mind that the ATM Strategy functions do not work on historical data.
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How do I back test for optimal ATM stop and target values, please ?

Is the only way to code stops and targets directly into the entry strategy as inputs for optimisation, ie. mimic the ATM within the strategy itself, rather than calling the pre-existing ATM from the strategy ?

I'd like to be able to do what was possible with the Tradestation strategy code I linked to in my second post above. I am willing to pay a Ninjascript expert to do this if necessary, as long as it's essentially simple to someone who "speaks the language".

[NinjaTrader_PatrickH]

Hello jtrade,

Thank you for your response.

To clarify here ATM Strategy functions do not operate on historical data therefore they cannot be backtested through the Strategy Analyzer.

If you wanted to backtest them you could run them through the Playback connection for Replay data but this would not offer and optimization options like the Strategy Analyzer.

The ATM Strategy functions require that you built the ATM Strategy outside of NinjaScript. Such as in the SuperDOM of Chart Trader, you then call the template by name in the ATM Strategy function CreateAtmStrategy() in order to have it manage the position after the entry fills.

If you wanted a NinjaScript strategy that allowed you to setup Stop Losses and Profit Targets that could be backtesting and thus optimized you would drop the use of the ATM Strategy functions and implement the Managed Order Approach in your NinjaScript Strategy. You can find details on the Managed Order Approach at the following link: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...d_approach.htm

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Please let me know if you have any questions.

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[jtrade]

If you wanted a NinjaScript strategy that allowed you to setup Stop Losses and Profit Targets that could be backtesting and thus optimized you would drop the use of the ATM Strategy functions and implement the Managed Order Approach in your NinjaScript Strategy. You can find details on the Managed Order Approach at the following link: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...d_approach.htm
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